Seats limitation

[ursus_arctos]

There seems to be a limit to how many seats there can be in for example National conference, if so what are the limits in the different levels (5 to 1) and is it also dependent of how many seasons played at a level.

Have a nice day

[will_the_canuck]

There seems to be a limit to how many seats there can be in for example National conference, if so what are the limits in the different levels (5 to 1) and is it also dependent of how many seasons played at a level.

Hello Janne.

When you say there seems to be a limit to how many seats there can be, I'm guessing you are referring to the stadium attendance per game. Is that correct? And as you cite the National Conference and mention the different levels of 1 thru 5, might I surmise you're playing the England definitions? If so, that's somewhere to start.

Now if you are talking about the attendance figures you see from when you play, there are different values depending on which version you are using. Additionally, it depends on what definitions you are playing too, as what you are conceiving as levels 1 thru 5 vary in strength from definition to definition. Let me explain.

When using bygfoot in general, the general attendance values are in part related to the strength of the league you are in. By that, I mean the average talent values of the teams in your league. Additionally, it also relates to how much stadium capacity is available in the league, or can, if you are using a version that is later than version 2.3.2, from some tests I have run, at least on version 2.4.x. Depending on the average talent values of the leagues in the definition you are playing, if they are low, like around 5000, you could in theory get about 15,000 attendance if everything goes well, I believe. If your league average talent value is like 8000 or higher, you could in theory get up to 60,000 or more in attendance, if you're doing well enough. Of course too, it does likely factor in the strength of your team and the stadium capacity you have built already.

I know that when using version 2.3.2, it was more restrictive on stadium attendance and it didn't go as high as the newer versions, but then when I think back, I only really stopped at around 65,000 when playing the England definitions. I'm wondering if I built my stadium capacity around 100,000, what might the attendance value end up being. I don't know. As for the version of 2.4.0 that I was testing, that being 2.4.0-dev-97, I was able to achieve much higher attendance values than what I was remembering in version 2.3.2 by a long shot and I even stopped after 6 seasons of testing. I do intend to continue testing and getting my stadium capacity up to 200,000 seats, just to see what happens, but until that time comes, those results will have to wait as I haven't touched bygfoot in a few months already.

So as the answer to your question varies, from the version of bygfoot you are using to the definition you are playing, hopefully this answer will help you understand what you wanted to know? Right now, there is no one answer to give you as not everything is made the same and even the definitions could be made by different people who grade them differently from other people. I guess the only way to know for sure would be to look at the league files of the definition you want to play and see what the <average_talent> values are and go from there. If the top league is at 8000 or more, you can rest assured that if you play your cards right, you can very likely get the attendance values over 60,000 at some point in the game, after being in the league for a least a full season. At least I know I have at some point in the past and that was even when using version 2.3.2. And just to repeat myself, that is if the league you are in has an <average_talent> value of 8000 or more, not just your team. Because if you're in a league where the <average_talent> is 6000 and your team's <average_talent> value is 8000 or more (80.0 and higher), it all gets sorted by the league AVERAGE, which will include all those teams whose averages are a LOT less than yours. This is the reason why when you are relegated, your attendance values would drop on average, even though your team has a higher average talent value.

So anyways, hope this helps. Take care for now,

Will aka will_the_canuck

[ursus_arctos]

Thank you for your answer. I should have more specific about wich versions I play, I play 2.2.1 and 2.3.2. beacuse they are a bit different and I like them both. Nowadays I don´t play from National Conference all the way up to Premier League, instead I only play National Conferens, I take on a team in the bottom of the league and take it up to win the National Conferens in one or two seasons. one season promotion is rare, two season promotion is common but sometimes it takes three. When I have reached top level I search "Job offers" for another team and so on.

Have a nice day

[will_the_canuck]

Thank you for your answer. I should have more specific about wich versions I play, I play 2.2.1 and 2.3.2. beacuse they are a bit different and I like them both. Nowadays I don´t play from National Conference all the way up to Premier League, instead I only play National Conferens, I take on a team in the bottom of the league and take it up to win the National Conferens in one or two seasons. one season promotion is rare, two season promotion is common but sometimes it takes three. When I have reached top level I search "Job offers" for another team and so on.

You're welcome for the answer. When I am reading your point about only wanting to really play in the National Conference (tier 5) in the England definition, it makes me wonder. If you are using a strategy where you are building the team through your youth academy and once you get out of the National Conference, you decide to abandon your team and go to a new one, that is something that sounds kind of boring. As you said, as achieving that goal would normally last between 2 and 3 seasons, you invest in a team and then kind of give it up after such a short time and start all over again. To me, that would suck. Now unless you do take it up through the Premier League and then to winning the UEFA Champions League and the Intercontinental Cup, then that is totally different and would be a whole lot better as that could maybe take up to say 10 seasons or so. At least that would be more satisfying than playing a team for 2 or 3 seasons and then giving up after that.

But if you're building your team through trades and not the youth academy, then that is something totally different and I can maybe see the point of stopping after such a short time, since there might not be as much of a future without new blood. Anyway, however you play the game is up to you and as long as you enjoy it, that's all that matters. Of note, I played the windows version of 2.3.2 which includes the original definitions from that version for England and I checked the average talent value for the fifth tier...it is 5800. My average attendance for the first season for me was 18,334. So depending on what you do, your attendance can vary.

So that's all for now,

Will aka will_the_canuck