Now you're all probably looking at my subject line and wondering what am I talking about? Well, let's just say that with bygfoot, there is a need for additions and updates to bring the definitions into the 2020's. By that I'm referring to the FIFA Club World Cup. Right now, with regards to club play, you have Europe (UEFA), South America (CONMEBOL), Mexico and the USA of North America (CONCACAF), and Japan of Asia and Australia of Oceania, although which is also part of the Asian association AFC. And really, that's currently it. Although for the version 2.3.3 update which was never really brought into being, there are basic definitions for Africa and Asia too, although I think they are limited in a way. In regards to the Club World Cup, the UEFA definitions only have the winner of the UEFA Champions League challenge a random team from South America in the Intercontinental Cup, which existed at one time but has expanded since then. As for the CONMEBOL definitions, they have the winner of their Recopa Sudamericana at least enter into something like the FIFA Club World Cup, but with some of the football associations not really represented in the game yet, their team selections are also limited and also random. As for the CONCACAF definitions, they did have the CONCACAF Champions League cup file but that's as far as it went. And as for Japan and Australia, there was no international play within the two country files.
So what I am proposing to do here is basically create the related league files of all the represented countries for Africa (CAF), Asia (AFC), Oceania (OFC), and CONCACAF (North and Central America and the Caribbean) to a point where the related countries wouldn't be playable per say but could be used to create the related tournaments that would be used to qualify for the FIFA Club World Cup. My intent would be to create the top league(s) in the related countries and then leave it to a point that if anyone else wanted to continue in creating a definition for that country, they could then easily do that without having to modify many files. Also, if said person was having problems with it, they could always ask for help with that particular country. We as a community here are here to assist if we can. I would also spend some time hopefully updating the South American (CONMEBOL) definitions as well. As for the European (UEFA) definitions, they are currently being updated by another person.
So with all of this in mind, it sounds simple enough, right? Well, there's a catch. After creating all the files and all, how would one decide to rate the particular countries in relation to the average talent of each country, and in comparison to one another. It is very easy to give them all random values and whenever you would have an international tournament, just using a <talent_diff> value (allows the computer to randomly assign a random talent ranking to a single or group of teams in a cup file, within a certain range from the talent value of the league ranking that the player is from), but that doesn't really give any realism to the game. When the developers created the game and the definitions, they did a very good job on the European (UEFA) definitions in that with regards to the UEFA Champions League cup files, they created a <property> value that allowed the teams selected from random teams within the Europe definitions to retain a level of ranking that befitted the country the team(s) were selected from. Otherwise, if the team was a lowly ranked country with a lowly rated value, the team would have a lowly rated value that would resemble the other teams from that league, if you were to play it. This trait is something that I would like to bring to the FIFA Club World Cup. But to do that, I need to rate all the countries in the world accurately, to a point. So here is the hard part.
What I did was wait until the first update of the year for 2020 from FIFA. The update for the Men's national team rankings was done on February 20, 2020. I copied the team rank, country name, and total points of all 210 countries and put them in a spreadsheet and did some magic on them to come up with values that can be used for the top tiers in the countries in the related football associations around the world to help me make the FIFA Club World Cup in the form that I want it to be, instead of randomly selecting a team and giving it a random talent value and all. So this will take some time to finish.
So to begin, here is a listing of the top 10 and bottom 10 nations in the world, according to FIFA's latest rankings:
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rank team total points average talent nation's talent
1 Belgium 1765 8500 8825
2 France 1733 8400 8665
3 Brazil 1712 8300 8560
4 England 1661 8100 8305
5 Uruguay 1645 8100 8225
6 Croatia 1642 8100 8210
7 Portugal 1639 8000 8195
8 Spain 1636 8000 8180
9 Argentina 1623 8000 8115
10 Colombia 1622 8000 8110
200 Aruba 867 5200 4335
202 Seychelles 866 5200 4330
203 Tonga 862 5200 4310
203 Turks and Caicos Islands 862 5200 4310
205 Eritrea 856 5200 4280
206 Sri Lanka 853 5100 4265
207 US Virgin Islands 844 5100 4220
208 British Virgin Islands 842 5100 4210
209 San Marino 824 5000 4120
210 Anguilla 821 5000 4105As for the average talent value, this one used a little magic to come up with the values that you see. From the original definitions for bygfoot that came with version 2.3.2, I noticed that of all the country definitions, the top level tiers had average talent values ranging from 5300 to 8500. So with that in mind, I kept the 8500 as a maximum value that a country's top level tier could have, and as a minimum value, I decided that 5000 would be the minimum value that a country's top level tier could have. From the above example, you could see that only Belgium would get a talent rating of 8500 and two teams (San Marino and Anguilla) would get the lowest talent rating of 5000. Although too, I will say that not all countries that belong to the related football associations (UEFA, CONMEBOL, CONCACAF, CAF, AFC, and OFC) are members of FIFA, and if they are qualified to enter any of the tournaments that can lead into the FIFA Club World Cup and I can find a league to create them with, I will create them and give them the lowest talent rating of 5000, so at least they will exist.
So now for the magic. Using the highest and lowest total points values of 1765 and 821, I decided I would use values just beyond that for my purposes, which in this case would be 1775 as the high value and 800 as the low value. I calculated the difference between them, which was 975. I then calculated how many 100 point breaks are between 5000 and 8600, which were 36. I chose 8600 instead of 8500 because if the value produced was between say 8000 and 8100, the value assigned to that country would be the lower value, in this case, 8000. So although 8600 is used for calculations here, no country can currently get to have that value. So I took 975 and divided it by 36 to get 27.0833. So I did a basic formula starting at 800 and then adding 27.0833 to it, for 36 times, until the value equaled 1775. And at each line, from 800 to 1775, I did a similar formula starting at 5000 and then adding 100 to it, each time for 36 times, until the value got to 8600. So if a country's total points value fell within a certain range, I looked at the corresponding column and checked out its average talent value. As it would fall between two values, I would select the lower value and that would then become the average talent value that I would use.
Simple enough, right?Ok. So without further ado, here are the results for the following football associations:
Europe - UEFA
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count fifa rank team total points average talent nation's talent
1 1 Belgium 1765 8500 8825
2 2 France 1733 8400 8665
3 4 England 1661 8100 8305
4 6 Croatia 1642 8100 8210
5 7 Portugal 1639 8000 8195
6 8 Spain 1636 8000 8180
7 12 Switzerland 1608 7900 8040
8 13 Italy 1607 7900 8035
9 14 Netherlands 1604 7900 8020
10 15 Germany 1602 7900 8010
11 16 Denmark 1598 7900 7990
12 17 Sweden 1579 7800 7895
13 19 Poland 1559 7800 7795
14 23 Wales 1540 7700 7700
15 24 Ukraine 1537 7700 7685
16 26 Austria 1507 7600 7535
17 29 Serbia 1494 7500 7470
18 29 Turkey 1494 7500 7470
19 32 Slovakia 1490 7500 7450
20 34 Republic of Ireland 1486 7500 7430
21 36 Northern Ireland 1476 7400 7380
22 37 Romania 1475 7400 7375
23 38 Russia 1470 7400 7350
24 39 Iceland 1465 7400 7325
25 44 Norway 1451 7400 7255
26 45 Czech Republic 1446 7300 7230
27 49 Bosnia and Herzegovina 1430 7300 7150
28 50 Scotland 1422 7200 7110
29 52 Hungary 1416 7200 7080
30 54 Greece 1409 7200 7045
31 58 Finland 1386 7100 6930
32 59 Bulgaria 1381 7100 6905
33 64 Montenegro 1365 7000 6825
34 64 Slovenia 1365 7000 6825
35 66 Albania 1356 7000 6780
36 68 North Macedonia 1347 7000 6735
37 87 Belarus 1280 6700 6400
38 91 Georgia 1267 6700 6335
39 93 Israel 1260 6600 6300
40 95 Cyprus 1251 6600 6255
41 98 Luxembourg 1236 6600 6180
42 102 Armenia 1213 6500 6065
43 104 Estonia 1202 6400 6010
44 110 Faroe Islands 1181 6400 5905
45 114 Azerbaijan 1177 6300 5885
46 115 Kosovo 1174 6300 5870
47 118 Kazakhstan 1155 6300 5775
48 131 Lithuania 1089 6000 5445
49 135 Andorra 1082 6000 5410
50 137 Latvia 1079 6000 5395
51 175 Moldova 959 5500 4795
52 180 Liechtenstein 926 5400 4630
53 184 Malta 919 5400 4595
54 196 Gibraltar 879 5200 4395
55 209 San Marino 824 5000 4120Code: Select all
count fifa rank team total points average talent nation's talent
1 3 Brazil 1712 8300 8560
2 5 Uruguay 1645 8100 8225
3 9 Argentina 1623 8000 8115
4 10 Colombia 1622 8000 8110
5 17 Chile 1579 7800 7895
6 21 Peru 1544 7700 7720
7 25 Venezuela 1517 7600 7585
8 41 Paraguay 1461 7400 7305
9 63 Ecuador 1368 7000 6840
10 75 Bolivia 1324 6900 6620Code: Select all
count fifa rank team total points average talent nation's talent
1 11 Mexico 1621 8000 8105
2 22 USA 1542 7700 7710
3 46 Costa Rica 1439 7300 7195
4 48 Jamaica 1437 7300 7185
5 62 Honduras 1377 7100 6885
6 69 El Salvador 1346 7000 6730
7 73 Canada 1332 6900 6660
8 80 Curaçao 1313 6800 6565
9 81 Panama 1304 6800 6520
10 86 Haiti 1285 6700 6425
11 105 Trinidad and Tobago 1201 6400 6005
12 126 Antigua and Barbuda 1127 6200 5635
13 130 Guatemala 1106 6100 5530
14 139 St. Kitts and Nevis 1074 6000 5370
15 141 Suriname 1073 6000 5365
16 151 Nicaragua 1050 5900 5250
17 158 Dominican Republic 1019 5800 5095
18 159 Grenada 1015 5700 5075
19 162 Barbados 1009 5700 5045
20 166 Guyana 988 5600 4940
21 167 St. Vincent and the Grenadines 986 5600 4930
22 168 Bermuda 984 5600 4920
23 170 Belize 974 5600 4870
24 176 St. Lucia 953 5500 4765
25 178 Puerto Rico 941 5500 4705
26 179 Cuba 936 5500 4680
27 183 Montserrat 921 5400 4605
28 184 Dominica 919 5400 4595
29 193 Cayman Islands 897 5300 4485
30 195 Bahamas 880 5200 4400
31 200 Aruba 867 5200 4335
32 203 Turks and Caicos Islands 862 5200 4310
33 207 US Virgin Islands 844 5100 4220
34 208 British Virgin Islands 842 5100 4210
35 210 Anguilla 821 5000 4105Code: Select all
count fifa rank team total points average talent nation's talent
1 20 Senegal 1555 7700 7775
2 27 Tunisia 1506 7600 7530
3 31 Nigeria 1493 7500 7465
4 35 Algeria 1482 7500 7410
5 43 Morocco 1456 7400 7280
6 46 Ghana 1439 7300 7195
7 51 Egypt 1420 7200 7100
8 53 Cameroon 1413 7200 7065
9 56 Congo DR 1389 7100 6945
10 56 Mali 1389 7100 6945
11 59 Burkina Faso 1381 7100 6905
12 61 Côte d'Ivoire 1378 7100 6890
13 71 South Africa 1334 6900 6670
14 74 Guinea 1328 6900 6640
15 77 Uganda 1321 6900 6605
16 78 Cabo Verde 1318 6900 6590
17 83 Gabon 1297 6800 6485
18 84 Benin 1295 6800 6475
19 88 Zambia 1279 6700 6395
20 89 Congo 1269 6700 6345
21 91 Madagascar 1267 6700 6335
22 100 Mauritania 1223 6500 6115
23 101 Libya 1215 6500 6075
24 106 Mozambique 1200 6400 6000
25 107 Kenya 1199 6400 5995
26 109 Central African Republic 1184 6400 5920
27 111 Zimbabwe 1180 6400 5900
28 112 Niger 1179 6300 5895
29 117 Namibia 1160 6300 5800
30 118 Guinea-Bissau 1155 6300 5775
31 118 Sierra Leone 1155 6300 5775
32 123 Malawi 1141 6200 5705
33 124 Angola 1136 6200 5680
34 126 Togo 1127 6200 5635
35 128 Sudan 1112 6100 5560
36 131 Rwanda 1089 6000 5445
37 133 Comoros 1088 6000 5440
38 134 Tanzania 1086 6000 5430
39 139 Lesotho 1074 6000 5370
40 145 Equatorial Guinea 1066 5900 5330
41 146 Ethiopia 1061 5900 5305
42 148 Botswana 1055 5900 5275
43 149 Burundi 1052 5900 5260
44 152 Liberia 1047 5900 5235
45 153 Eswatini 1042 5800 5210
46 159 Gambia 1015 5700 5075
47 169 South Sudan 983 5600 4915
48 172 Mauritius 965 5600 4825
49 177 Chad 943 5500 4715
50 181 São Tomé and Príncipe 923 5400 4615
51 184 Djibouti 919 5400 4595
52 196 Somalia 879 5200 4395
53 202 Seychelles 866 5200 4330
54 205 Eritrea 856 5200 4280Code: Select all
count fifa rank team total points average talent nation's talent
1 28 Japan 1500 7500 7500
2 33 IR Iran 1489 7500 7445
3 40 Korea Republic 1464 7400 7320
4 42 Australia 1457 7400 7285
5 55 Qatar 1396 7200 6980
6 67 Saudi Arabia 1351 7000 6755
7 70 Iraq 1344 7000 6720
8 71 United Arab Emirates 1334 6900 6670
9 76 China PR 1323 6900 6615
10 79 Syria 1314 6800 6570
11 82 Oman 1303 6800 6515
12 85 Uzbekistan 1289 6800 6445
13 89 Lebanon 1269 6700 6345
14 94 Vietnam 1258 6600 6290
15 96 Kyrgyz Republic 1240 6600 6200
16 97 Jordan 1238 6600 6190
17 99 Bahrain 1225 6500 6125
18 103 Palestine 1204 6400 6020
19 108 India 1187 6400 5935
20 113 Thailand 1178 6300 5890
21 116 Korea DPR 1170 6300 5850
22 121 Tajikistan 1152 6200 5760
23 124 Philippines 1136 6200 5680
24 129 Turkmenistan 1107 6100 5535
25 136 Myanmar 1081 6000 5405
26 138 Chinese Taipei 1078 6000 5390
27 143 Hong Kong 1072 6000 5360
28 144 Yemen 1071 6000 5355
29 147 Kuwait 1060 5900 5300
30 149 Afghanistan 1052 5900 5260
31 154 Malaysia 1040 5800 5200
32 155 Maldives 1038 5800 5190
33 157 Singapore 1020 5800 5100
34 170 Nepal 974 5600 4870
35 173 Cambodia 964 5600 4820
36 173 Indonesia 964 5600 4820
37 182 Macau 922 5400 4610
38 187 Bangladesh 914 5400 4570
39 188 Laos 912 5400 4560
40 189 Bhutan 911 5400 4555
41 190 Mongolia 906 5300 4530
42 191 Brunei Darussalam 904 5300 4520
43 196 Timor-Leste 879 5200 4395
44 199 Guam 873 5200 4365
45 200 Pakistan 867 5200 4335
46 206 Sri Lanka 853 5100 4265Code: Select all
count fifa rank team total points average talent nation's talent
1 122 New Zealand 1149 6200 5745
2 141 Solomon Islands 1073 6000 5365
3 156 New Caledonia 1035 5800 5175
4 161 Tahiti 1014 5700 5070
5 163 Fiji 996 5700 4980
6 163 Vanuatu 996 5700 4980
7 165 Papua New Guinea 991 5700 4955
8 Cook Islands 908 5300 4540
9 192 American Samoa 900 5300 4500
10 194 Samoa 894 5300 4470
11 203 Tonga 862 5200 4310But another reason for me to do it this way is because it allows continuity across all of the associations. Yes, we can do it another way and use a different measure for values, a different one for each association, but then when it comes to intercontinental tournaments, you'd have to do a random selection and value again, and really, is that what you'd want? Well, for me, I'm doing it this way or at least planning on doing it this way. It will take some time though as it can be extensive.
So with that in mind, do you have any comments on my idea here or feedback? Feel free to let me know. Until then, have fun.
will_the_canuck